2021 british grand prix stewards
Max could have avoided the collision too, presuming he had some awareness of where Hamilton was (likely) but chose not too. I am getting increasingly sick of Christian Horner’s double standards – how many times has Max forced people off with his aggressive refusal to back down, but when someone does it back to him, suddenly it is disgraceful and Hamilton had a “hollow victory”. Max Verstappen, Christian Horner and the British Grand Prix stewards blamed Lewis Hamilton for what happened on Lap 1, but the incident divided opinion among the rest of the F1 paddock. The reguations require that competitors have right of reply on stewarding matters under consideration. “And then I went up and gave my opinion. I’m really not sure about broadcasting team principals during races, it does seem to be essentially ‘whine radio.’ Hearing each other pleading for harsher penalties surely just makes this situation worse. I know, it’s a hopeless wish. Verstappen claims he was âtaken outâ. But something like the Hamilton/Verstappen crash was obviously being investigated so there was no need for either party to interfere. Extremely unprofessional by Masi. But the rules need changing after all this time according to Horner because Merc used that facility; with his argument being if the teams and drivers have relevant information that may inform their deliberations, then that information should be kept from the stewards. The event, which was held over the weekend of 16-18 July, is . Invisiblekid (@invisiblekid) 21st July 2021, 0:51, You did hear Masi getting quite agitated at the calls he was getting from RB? @rocketpanda Maybe consider that the only party that considers it lobbying is the side who stands to gain by the other side being sanctioned? Anna Elder - July 19, 2021. The real problem here in my opinion is that the FIA haven’t made public what those overtaking guidelines are, and without that they’re just going to face question after question about the move. jodrell (@jodrell) 19th July 2021, 14:40. when you say fact…you mean it’s a fact that his was the first one you heard FOM broadcast, or that you’ve got access to the radio transcripts with time codes to know ?? You weren’t in the room nor reading their minds. Yes. And the incidents with Rosberg were often Rosberg’s fault, you talk as if they were all down to Hamilton. PMccarthy_is_a_legend (@pmccarthy_is_a_legend) 19th July 2021, 14:17. Published by F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and edited by Nigel Mansell, World Champion in 1992 and the most popular British driver of all time, this fully illustrated book contains a complete review of the year's events and news in Formula ... Fast, aggressive and wonderfully magnetic, James Hunt electrified Formula One during one the most exciting period in the sport's history. 6 (3 . Stewards have access to hundreds of camera angles, live data, team radio messages and much more, and still manage to make decisions in a matter of minutes. This is not about regulations, but instead about the “directives” or explanations the stewards use for how they judge (or are supposed to judge) overtaking situations. Then you obiously where not watching the race or paying attention to the broadcast. He simply didn’t turn in until he ended up at the outside of the corner. Funnily enough, Verstappen blamed Hamilton for that incident. I am so tired of him behaving like a toddler. What @rocketpanda? If they think you’ve added new info you get your flag back to use again, otherwise sorry, you have no flag for next time. Giving Lewis Hamilton a more severe penalty because of the scale of Max Verstappen's crash would contradict a "mainstay" of how Formula 1's rules are enforced, says FIA race director Michael . the car on the outside (Sainz) is the one making the overtake, while Grosjean on the inside is defending. âAs for the incident, it always takes two to tango, and these two are not giving each other an inch,â Wolff said. By the time Verstappen drove into him, Lewis’ front wheel was level with MV’s rear, hence the spin. Tumblr. It was Lewis being Lewis giving room to a driver whose attitude is “give me the corner or crash”. Peter Warr was best known for his management of the Lotus Formula 1 team, where he was one of Colin Chapman's closest allies as well as the man who nurtured the early Formula 1 careers of Ayrton Senna and Nigel Mansell. @balue Lol, yeah and Masi is the only one who hears the radio traffic? Christian “files complaints constantly” Horner complaining about pressuring stewards. drmouse (@drmouse) 20th July 2021, 13:07. It has been a guideline for years that any incident should be judged solely on its merits, not on the outcome. I will not be bullied into being less aggressive. Not good. Plus his one-eyed matey is always out playing the bad cop role as well. Lewis minimized the impact and Max had a much smaller collision than he would have had if Lewis pulled a Max and went full speed into the corner. While fans seem to loathe the idea of on-track results being changed after the chequered flag has fallen, post-race penalties have provided some memorable, championship-defining moments. And it isn’t just in the broadcasted messages to the FIA, but in the comments made to the TV channels as well. I wouldn’t put it past them, but nor would I put it past Horner if the situations were reversed. 2. The 2021 Formula 1 world championship battle took a dramatic turn at Silverstone when Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton collided on the opening lap of the British Grand Prix. Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Shimmy, 13 Jul 2021. ? Optimaximal (@optimaximal) 19th July 2021, 16:34. I think f1osaurus and I have had enough disagreements for a lifetime now ;-), F1oSaurus (@f1osaurus) 21st July 2021, 7:40. Marko is just a man with no brain and a megaphone. Lewis Hamilton is facing accusations of dirty driving. But Max then runs Lewis too far wide. Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here. It was a bad afternoon for Red Bull with Sergio Perez finishing 16th and outside the points to drop from third to fifth in the standings. 2021 British Grand Prix: Date . The Bahrain 2018 incident was definitely Max’s fault. Maybe it’s because Emanuele Pirro was again involved. Senna and Prost would be at the centre of the controversy again five years later, as the two drivers - now team-mates at McLaren and fighting for the title - collided at the Japanese Grand Prix. Sports journalist James Gray seeks to understand the outspoken nature and aggressive driving style that make Verstappen a must-watch before, during and after races, and why his Dutch fans, who turn up to cheer him on in their orange-clad ... It’s time to move on. I’m not really sure about penalising a move that ends your own race though. Its not right for anyone to do exactly the same as he does on a race by race basis. Previously stewarding panels could be made up of individuals with no racing experience of their own, although this is no longer the case. Horner and his pitwall where constantly lobbying the race director. @scbriml Except that you could say the same of LH who could afford a dnf even less, and would have had it not been for the red flag. âI donât feel he needs to be aggressive as he is,â he said. This bickering continued, and still continues almost a week later. Race stewards at the British Grand Prix have given Lewis Hamilton two penalty points on his superlicence after finding the Mercedes driver guilty of taking Max Verstappen out of the race at Silverstone. With an expertly authoritative text along with a list of race-winners and a comprehensive chronology of Grand Prix racing, this fully-illustrated volume is the indispensable guide to the world's highest-octane sport. Photo by: Mark Sutton / Motorsport Images. But do you want to argue with Lawrence Stroll? Must’ve been quite stressful in those situations, lots of moving parts, but the “Toto you know I don’t check my email during the race” comment was classic. It wasn’t the wing it was Hamilton’s front wheel. They all do it. Search. Lewis Hamilton wins his eighth Grand Prix at Silverstone. The problem is exacerbated by the rear-right falling off also causing the left-front to lift up, meaning the car has close to just 50% of the friction it would normally have to slow it down. But there are signs that suggest the Black Arrows squad could yet get closer than it did yesterday, Inside the Mercedes mission control where F1 races are won or lost, Thousands of miles from the race track, an F1 team’s nerve centre shapes its drivers’ fortunes. Hamilton survived the impact and was able to replace a damaged wheel rim under the red flag, while Verstappen was brought . But all the team principals do need to learn to grow up a bit. I do reject the notion though that Max ‘started turning in’ for from the onboards we see he was always turning in for that is what both drivers were doing for the right-hander. FIA unmoved as Horner calls Mercedes' lobbying of stewards "unacceptable" | 2021 British Grand Prix https://ift.tt/2UnB2kg Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said it was "unacceptable" for his opposite number at Mercedes, Toto Wolff, to lobby the stewards in person during the British Grand Prix.However the FIA's Formula 1 race director Michael Masi said he… I get that it’s hard to judge situations and it’s different people stewarding every time, but there should be some consistency or at least properly explain why they decide the way they do if it’s so controversial. Everyone “knows” what the “rules” about overtaking are…can anyone show them to anyone to assure everyone that everyone isn’t thinking something different to suit their own circumstances? Grand Prix; Penalising Hamilton for severity of Verstappen's crash not an option - Masi | 2021 British Grand Prix. “after Toto went running to them” – after having been told by the Race Director that he was totally within his rights to do that. F1oSaurus (@f1osaurus) 20th July 2021, 8:31. âVery disappointed with being taken out like this.â. ‘It’s a racing incident, entirely Max’s fault but it say racing incident’, Arnoud van Houwelingen (@kavu) 19th July 2021, 20:03. @randommallard Yeah maybe it’s that they want to stop the running each other off. Phillip van Osten 05/11/2021 at 19:07. That’s the point. @jodrell The best summary I heard (and I now forget who gave it!) The point is that the one who is entitled to the racing line does normally not need to leave space for the other car. Official 2021 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS*** Reply Prev 1 2 . Max was increasing the distance but Lewis lost control (partly because of the dirty air of maxs faster car_, Green Flag (@greenflag) 19th July 2021, 16:45. In one exchange, Masi told Wolff to “feel free to go upstairs and visit the stewards”, which he did. Linkedin. F1’s race director is Michael Masi, who took over the role in 2019 after the death of Charlie Whiting. Verstappen has been doing this for years and banking on other drivers ‘bottling it’. Funny that. @giles_richards. The nature and contour of the gravel trap obviously needs a serious redesign I think that is the most serious concern to come from yesterday’s crash. * Christian Horner dramatic comments about “throwing a wheel up the inside” and “no-one over takes there” are clearly nonsense implying at best that Lewis did something knowingly dangerous, and at worst that he’d crashed deliberately * Helmut Marko saying that Hamilton should be banned is Bernie Ecclestone level nonsense * The Mercedes team radioing that Lewis was clearly alongside as an attempt to influence the stewards decision was clumsy and pointless when it’s a front/rear wheel touch * Lewis celebrating to the extent that he did could be seen to be somewhat insensitive, but he referenced that he was glad Max was OK first in almost every interview I saw, so maybe he didn’t have the info that Max was still being checked out. The question from that is what does ‘makes the corner cleanly’ mean? The story of that first lap was Max squeezing and weaving. The British Grand Prix stewards judged Hamilton to be "predominantly at fault". Same with Wolff who obviously has significant sway and influence within not just Mercedes but F1 as a whole. Come to Copse and its Max who driving as if Hamilton wasn’t there sharing the same track. It’s one of those rivalry defining incidents that happen in pretty much every major fight. Stewards imposed a 10 second-penalty, the second lightest punishment available to them, on Hamilton who was still able to chase down Leclerc. Also Horner: Excuse me while I go and lobby the race stewards. Still Verstappen and Hamilton did that on several occasions and no one batted an eye. F1 British GP - British Grand Prix Race Live Latest Updates. Horner and Helmut are just displaying nothing more than irrational sour grapes. Whether it is in person on over the radio does not make any difference. The race was won by Esteban Ocon for Alpine-Renault, the first win for the Enstone-based team since the 2013 Australian Grand Prix, and the . Bleating, whining, berating Michael Masi clear as a bell more than once!!!! They aren’t even allowed to voice their defense (regardless of merit) between themselves? In fact he ended his own race in pulling that stunt clipping Hamilton’s front wing, but still. Who was to blame for Verstappen and Hamilton’s collision at Silverstone? July 19th, 2021 1:01 pm Lewis Hamilton revived his Formula One title defence by winning the British Grand Prix after a first lap crash that left championship leader Max Verstappen complaining he . Lawyers don’t try to persuade judges? âItâs difficult to enjoy 100 per cent,â he said. At what point did Hamilton “lose control” of his car? Hamiltonâs win ended Red Bullâs streak of five straight victories to cut Verstappenâs lead in the championship to eight points. I think the penalty on Lewis is fair. Green Flag (@greenflag) 20th July 2021, 1:57. Both Mercedes and Red Bull are as bad as each other.
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